online poker "stats"???

[blueedwards]

do these mean anything? if so, what do my stats tell you about my play? here they are:

games won - 11%
showdowns won - 46%

flops seen - 32%
win % when see flop - 26%

your actions

fold - 48%
check - 15%
call - 21%
bet - 9%
raise 7%
re-reraise - 1%

when you fold

preflop - 65%
flop - 13%
turn - 4%
river - 2%
no fold - 15%

 

[blueedwards]

i have played about 2,000 hands and am up a little bit. not nearly as much as with sports but, enough to keep me coming back.

 

[ProPokerPlayer]

IMO....above avg. doesnt look like you play to many hands. improvements i could see would be less calls, more raises and reraises....in other words more aggression now that your better than most. been working on mine as well and you can probably expect to lose a little more as you get used to playing more aggressive, but eventually your losses will be less and your amount won (not total wins but the overall amount you win when you win) will defineitly go up!

2 books....Super Systems...Brunson covers aggression really well...

and Making the Final Table by wpt champ erick lindgren...very advanced techniques

 

[blueedwards]

imo, aggression works well in a home game but, not online.

 

[Matt24]

is this off your pokertracker? if so, post your VPIP, PFR, what game you are playing, and aggression factor.

 

[ProPokerPlayer]

"imo, aggression works well in a home game but, not online."

Mucho Dinero Wrongo

 

[blueedwards]

is this off your pokertracker? if so, post your VPIP, PFR, what game you are playing, and aggression factor.

i dont know what all that means. i am playing limit and no limit hold em. the stats are from the lower left hand corner of the screen at bodog.

 

[BaseballGuy]

32 percent is high for hands played. You should be at about 20 percent excluding blinds

 

[primetime21+]

i dont know what all that means. i am playing limit and no limit hold em. the stats are from the lower left hand corner of the screen at bodog.

pokertracker is a program you can buy for about 50 bucks that tracks all the hands you play (although i dont think its compatible with bodog).

The stats you have aren't much to go on. First off, how many hands have you played to come up with these stats? if its only a couple of hundred its tough to get a good read on such a small sampling. Usually you would want to see a few thousand.

As for your VPIP (amount of times seeing the flop), while 32 percent is a little high for a full ring, it isnt so bad if you are playing shorthanded (6 max tables). And if you are a very good player post-flop there is nothing wrong with seeing 32 percent of the flops as opposed to the low 20's that is "normally" recommended.

If you added up the stats of 10 pros you would see a wide variety of stats. doesn't make one way better than another. But we would definitely need to see more information than what you showed to give better feedback.

And ppp is 100 percent right. Aggression is the life blood of any good poker player. There is no difference between live and online play.
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[blueedwards]

pokertracker is a program you can buy for about 50 bucks that tracks all the hands you play (although i dont think its compatible with bodog).

The stats you have aren't much to go on. First off, how many hands have you played to come up with these stats? if its only a couple of hundred its tough to get a good read on such a small sampling. Usually you would want to see a few thousand.

As for your VPIP (amount of times seeing the flop), while 32 percent is a little high for a full ring, it isnt so bad if you are playing shorthanded (6 max tables). And if you are a very good player post-flop there is nothing wrong with seeing 32 percent of the flops as opposed to the low 20's that is "normally" recommended.

If you added up the stats of 10 pros you would see a wide variety of stats. doesn't make one way better than another. But we would definitely need to see more information than what you showed to give better feedback.

And ppp is 100 percent right. Aggression is the life blood of any good poker player. There is no difference between live and online play.

played around 2,000 hands. i believe that the 32% of flops seen includes the times i am in the blinds but i am not sure.

i personally have had much more success with aggression in live games. when i do it online, people tend to call more often and i get beat on the river a lot more. have had more success playing tighter online.

 

[QuickLearner]

i believe that the 32% of flops seen includes the times i am in the blinds but i am not sure.

I think you're right; Bodog doesn't separate the blinds when calculating that percentage. My method of playing the blinds is simple: I play as if I'm in the worst possible position...because I am. Also, once I put up the blind, the money is no longer mine and I never think,"Well, I'm half-way in so I might as well complete or call the raise." My stat including the blinds is around 21%.

i personally have had much more success with aggression in live games. when i do it online, people tend to call more often and i get beat on the river a lot more. have had more success playing tighter online.

You're right. They seem to call more frequently online. You are watching people making mistakes, so continue to bet your good hands. If you are suffering suckouts that means you were originally in the pot with the best hand. Think about ways to drive out the chasers (like check-raising them to death). If they still chase you've forced them to pay too much for their hand: a very good thing. And don't confuse aggression with tightness; you need to be both tight and aggressive.

 

[yorick]

i have played about 2,000 hands and am up a little bit. not nearly as much as with sports but, enough to keep me coming back.

When you've played 2000 HOURS, not hands, your stats will mean more. That would mean 25,000-30,000 hands online. The stats given at the poker sites may not be worth that much anyway. It's much more important to know when certain hands are profitable and when they are not. And then how to play them profitably. And your bottom line will tell you more about that than online site stats. Seeing the flop X amount of times in 2000 hands doens't prove much. Heck, losing (or winning) 100 big bets in 2000 hands doesn't prove much.

There are hundreds of situations that come up in poker games. You are not going to see a full range of them in just a few thousand hands. And you are certainly not going to average out the fluctuations in that many hands.

And I referring to the same game, same stakes and same quality of opponents for the range of hands. Change games, stakes or play tougher (or easier) opponents and the stats are less useful. So, for example, if you normally play 3/6 holdem on Party during the evenings on full tables, you wouldn't want to include sessions you played short-handed or when you played some 5/10.